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The original post in forum that brought out this conversation was this one, which we’ve posted in our Finger on the Pulse category: Sandra Walter – Deepening For the Next Wave , published March 2, 2016..
Our thanks to Sandra for stirring us to spill our wisdom and share it.
(The usernames of forum members have been changed to initials to preserve privacy.)
K: Thank you for this article (1) .I have been feeling the deepening. Perhaps we are all feeling the deep love and peace that is accessible right now. During the times that I do not feel it I am reminded to connect back into the heart, and there it is patiently waiting for my attention.
Perhaps with this transition we can sustain our connection to Source, Gaia and All that we are.
A: I love the references to ’embodied’. This is the way I think of it too. We bring the spirit into the body rather than look to abandon all the physical and hang out like a kite without a string.
This is what I’ve been getting for the longest time too, and it’s been asking me to pay a lot more attention to my body and also my surroundings in ways that honor the sacred nature of the supposedly mundane everyday.
P: A very nice and promising message, but also very imaginative; even almost abstract….for me.
Words may have such wide range of meanings. And in my own language it still sounds rather different.
And from the ‘outer world’ I still cannot detect any clear sign of change. Well, I see many changes, but not for the ‘good’.
I probably will stay with my intention to ‘ be there’ in unconditional love and dedication.
And my body needs a good overhaul anyway.
T: This is complex for me. Sandra’s path is one of giving up all 3D ties and going 100% for the Light and the 5D life. My path is different.
I am involved in the 3D world with my therapy practice and creating workshops and retreats for people to learn to connect with Nature and their Hearts….Now before the ‘Obvious Shift’.
Once the Shift happens and all know of it, my work will be different in that I can use the Ascension language, but now I can’t, I have to use 3D language with people or they will not know how to relate to me.
But I take Sandra’s words and meaning and apply it to my life and my particular path as best as I can . I still have to pay my bills, go to work, do chores, etc.
My way is, and will be, to help people (make) more transition from 3D to 5D way of life. Her way is to jump right into 5D. There will certainly be a need for 3D to 5D transition.
People are not going to be able to do what she is doing, just as I can’t. She is very evolved Being, and she is helpful for sure to show the way….so inspiring.
And I/we have to find our own way. She has been a guide for me.
“Forget about the grounded worries of finances, politics, and energizing the big bad negative reality. The division of realties strengthens as the next wave enters mid-March…”
So, looks like the distinction between 3 and 5D will become stronger.That’s great, but when can I stop having to pay bills and make a living? Should I stop paying my mortgage and my family ends up on the street?
In Buddhism they speak of the ‘Middle Way’. I think that is my path here.
Quote from A:
“I love the references to ’embodied’. This is the way I think of it too. We bring the spirit into the body rather than look to abandon all the physical and hang out like a kite without a string.
“This is what I’ve been getting for the longest time too, and it’s been asking me to pay a lot more attention to my body and also my surroundings in ways that honor the sacred nature of the supposedly mundane everyday.”
I just read your post, A. I like the kite analogy and the way you look at this. I don’t have to stop my physical, my 3D life. I need to bring Spirit, Nature, Elementals into my physical body. Into my sacred 3D Body and help it transform into Light.
A: I think this is where there’s a lot of confusion in the community, T. At least this is the way I see it. People have been thinking that there is a linear passage from ‘3D to 5D’. It simply isn’t like this, it isn’t linear at all!
What it is is an expanded view that encompasses all of it. What it is is a shift in perspective that brings the sacred into the supposed mundane aspects of the miraculous everyday.
When the shift in perspective happens, so does the shift in perception. Every single thing looks very different than before. It gets more and more subtle, and there’s a need to ground the spiritual into the physical, or what is the point of being here embodied to begin with? In the way that truth always simplifies, this truth is the only thing that makes sense to me. I am here, therefore, Ascension is all about being here, because I AM all about the Ascension of awareness/consciousness/divinity IN FORM.
How is it for the greater good of all if all the spiritually-based lovers on the planet float off and abandon the rest? Who does this make sense to anyway? I think it’s been hacked to keep us from being sensible and to keep us disconnected from Gaia Herself, without which none of this embodiment can take place anyway. Our bodies are Her Body.
The key here is to remember that we are the value, we are the body of Gaia, we are the portals of divinity in form. In this way, we may finally make conscious choices that reflect these truths and we may choose to walk in form in a sacred way, instead of limping around trying to find the escape hatch.
T: A, your words and their meaning, of course, bring tears to my eyes and touch my Heart. I appreciate that you are here with your wisdom and Heart. My Body is Gaia’s Body.
After I wrote the last post here, I came ‘down off the ledge’. After my rant, I could feel Gaia and the Elementals in my Sacred Body. My Heart is more open and I am connected to the One.
Quote from A:
“In the way that truth always simplifies, this truth is the only thing that makes sense to me.”
I can feel the Truth of all of this is my Body. That is all that matters right now. And I can go to work and pay the bills from this place of Truth. No stress, no worry, and the strength of the separation from 3D and 5D that Sandra speaks of will make this easier for me.
A: Dear mighty lover, T, it only gets better from here on out, in this now and into the future nows.
From the perspective of ‘all is sacred’, the unfathomable magic begins to show itself in every sort of mundane setting. It cannot be explained, but it is so and all it takes is to be willing to allow it to unfold. This is what I call holding the space, this remembering in each moment that the Divine is present, and that I bring divinity into each moment with my own awareness of, and expectation of it.
This is the walk of the masters and we are the masters walking in form. This is both exalting and thrilling and also it’s simply everyday stuff of life when the shift in perspective takes place, and takes it’s proper place inside of us.
This practice reduces stress in unfathomable ways as well. With practice, what I found was all sorts of distorted notions that dissolved in the face of the miracles of synchronicity and the impossible began to happen daily. It takes some effort to remain in an aware space of being to perceive what I’m talking about, but it’s so worthy of the effort.
This is the essence of what is called faith, but I say it is the practice of simply honoring that the moment, each moment, is divinity in action. It takes no faith at all, in terms of ‘hope’, which is a thin cover for doubt, or in terms of believing the unbelievable, or the whatever defies common sense. This is how I would define what most people think is faith, another totally hacked concept.
True faith is based on experience. One will have the experiences to have faith when the basis of attitude is the realization of the presence of divinity is held in the awareness. Divinity will unfold and reveal itself in miraculous ways, unfathomable, beautiful, impossible. Every sort of distortion or notion based on distortion will fail in the face of the magic that occurs.
This is my honest report.
T: My, God, A, you don’t run out of wisdom….do you?
Quote from A:
“True faith is based on experience. One will have the experiences to have faith when the basis of attitude is the realization of the presence of divinity is held in the awareness. Divinity will unfold and reveal itself in miraculous ways, unfathomable, beautiful, impossible. Every sort of distortion or notion based on distortion will fail in the face of the magic that occurs.”
I am going to have to hold this in my Heart in meditation to get its full meaning…..divinity will unfold in each moment through synchronicity more and more NOW. And as you say, with less stress especially about money issues and survival. More Trust with this.
A: Proceed with staying in awareness of the divinity present in each moment and the evidence with present itself. The momentum of this builds. This is my personal report and I’m not at all teasing or kidding. Try it and see. I’d love to hear the report on what you find for yourself.
I can report that the abundance and the survival issues will resolve in ways that completely reveal how distorted our notions are about them. Exactly how this will present to you, I can’t say, but this isn’t happening only for me, it’s also happening for others. I’ve listened to the testimonies of too many others to think I’m somehow special on this.
T: Quote from A:
“I can report that the abundance and the survival issues will resolve in ways that completely reveal how distorted our notions are about them.”
Yes, I can see this happen, in part at least. I forget and then I remember….and I will attend to this with greater focus…and let you know, for sure.
A: Yes, lol, the forgetting and remembering, hehehe! Be easy on yourself, this is how it is for all of us. Each moment is the opportunity to start fresh again though! Think about the magic inherent in that!
Jt: Quote from A:
“Proceed with staying in awareness of the divinity present in each moment and the evidence with present itself. The momentum of this builds. This is my personal report and I’m not at all teasing or kidding.”
I have been doing this for quite a while now. I used to say, “I want to connect”. Now I barely think about it and I am connected. I cannot sustain it for long, except when I am with my clients.
Sometimes it almost as if my H.S. (higher self) is taking over, but that is not the right way to say it. I’m still present, still me, but an exquisitely finer version of myself.
I’m not afraid of losing myself any more, although I will admit that my mind tends to put a stop to it when it gets intense. I’m in training mode, still. Hopefully, these intense energies that are already here will facilitate a smoother transition for my mind so I can let go.
In regards to memories: I believe we retain them, negative memories loose their emotional charge, positive ones are viewed with a sense of pleasant nostalgia.
G: It is so funny knowing that we walk slightly different paths and yet what you wrote Jt could have been written by me.
This type of mirroring makes me feel the oneness more.
Thank you for being you.
Jt: And thanks for being you, G. Your post filled my heart.
We are flat-out doing this seemingly impossible-so-out-there thing, yet we know it is real.
There are not enough words in the human language to describe these times.
P: Thanks, A, for the profound lessons here. I think I am not the only one, as T isn’t the only one.
It helps me to ‘imagine’, and to believe in Self, to realize that WE are the NOW…. and the future is how we lived in the old concept.
The future is from the past…isnt that a weird thing!!
A: So, you pop open yet another amazing paradigm shift aspect! That being that the nature of time is fluid beyond what we’ve ever been able to comprehend before!
Yes, the past isn’t what we thought it was. It changes with the changes we make in the now, as does the future. Both past and future change when we change in the now.
Again, there’s no proper explanation for this that will satisfy a linear thought pattern. Nevertheless, it is so.
I found this out when trying to go back into the memories I have about my cancer incident in order to tell the tale. What happened was that I couldn’t pull up the details I knew must be there. This story is a cornerstone of my life for goodness sake! Of course, I remember it!
When searching for the details, I got back the message, IT DIDN’T HAPPEN LIKE THAT.
What the hell? Hahahaha! Alrighty then. I tried over and over to overcome this glitch and this is all that I can come up with to this day. The story changed and there it is.
In the time since the incident with my brush with death via disease, there’s been many times that I could identify with what may be termed as quantum leaps or time line jumping. Times where I left one scenario and moved to edge of the cliff and jumped off into nothing.
This seems to be a feature of my proclivity for extremes, but anyway, it makes me wonder if this is the ‘reason’ I can’t find the memories I know must be there, or if the entire incident has been transmuted so thoroughly that it truly didn’t happen the way I think it did.
It may just be a feature of the profound shifts in perspective I’ve made in these decades since.
P: And strange it is…as I have some physical needs for some time now, that I never had so intense before…
Is my body protesting against what has passed … or what happens in the now?
Is it me that realizes that its not all over yet?
Is it based on the need to create or even to procreate?
Or is it of lesser importance and should I neglect it?
May be my memories are playing with me?
I hear that In war times this same phenomenon is noticed; when men are under great stresses.
A: I like to wonder what it would be like to wake up like a chicken in a new day. In other words, without any memory to define me other than to remember myself in the moment.
I wonder if I truly need all the memories I drag along with me everywhere I go. What would be the nature of my life without them? Hmmmm….
P: Memories during our life have been the building bricks of our personality…
so can we allow ourselves to be without memories…?
These memories are also a burden from our past…
Still I prefer to stay WITH my memories ….for the time being.
De: The personality is the mask we’ve put on for this lifetime. The Being expresses through it, and the more the facets of our persona are being polished, the brighter Being can shine through it.
That being said, I welcome memories to go, shift or stay, however it is required on my soul path. I Am not my memories, I Am not my personality, but I Am master of my reality.
Some of my memories have so greatly changed, the sad, angry, abandoned child I had been is not Here anymore, she has shifted into a happy, curious, adventurous child, simply by me consciously and lovingly embracing her in all her expressions.
The memories we carry are not really about what happened, but more about how we perceived it and the conclusion we drew from it. Everybody knows it, have 10 people watch 1 scenario, and 10 different stories result from it. Thus memories are illusionary, they are no proofs for facts but for our state of consciousness at that point of time.
When we expand in consciousness and from Here-Now go back to those times, the memories shift, the timelines shift, and We, as Beings expressing through personalities, are even more brilliantly shining in our true divine nature.
I, for one, completely trust that all fading memories are simply worn-out and ready to go, in order to give space for the new but eternal Me emerging. my true characteristics are not going to change, but my personality is shifting through it, and I greatly enjoy this.
Du: Fascinating subject. In a sense, ‘karma’ is nothing more than memories. So how do we move beyond karma? – through deep understanding. So, what is personality but a stand-in for who we really are? And who are we but God’s love manifested.
So through the eyes of Love, where is the reality of the constructs of the past, including the personality? Just a dream, perhaps.
A: Bam, Du! Wow, you guys are aces!! You hit on the key to stepping off the wheel of karma!! OMG, I love you!
So. Who judges? Who holds the concepts of ‘karma’ in place? Who decides that ignorance, which is truly the root of all that we would determine is karmic to begin with, is due punishment? If punishment is indeed the ‘reason’ for karma to begin with?
If I don’t cling to what isn’t me to begin with, then there’s nothing that has the power to make anything stick to me. This is what I know now that I didn’t know before I didn’t know it. It’s been my own life force that has made such impossible things happen.
Love is the key. The choices have always been present.
De: Quote from DU said:
“In a sense, ‘karma’ is nothing more than memories. So how do we move beyond karma?”
Karma stops when we stop be-lie-ving in it. I’m certain it s as simple as this.
To me, it feels like a hamster wheel of ‘there and then’. We judge from the separating mind about good and bad, and our be-lie-fs move us forward towards redemption, either in punishment or reward.
Once it s deeply understood that everything happening is an expression of divine perfection, the judging stops.
This is when the hamster lets go of the wheel and falls into the center, which is Now and Here. This catapults us beyond the wheel.
To me, it appeared as if for lifetimes I’d been climbing a mountain with a huge sack of packages and parcels on my back. every step was exhausting, I used to work a lot on clearing my backpack, every now and then taking out one of the parcels and lighten the burden (but new parcels being collected all the time, sigh, a sisiphus task.)
Until, in one single moment, I realized the futility of this job and broke down, flat on the ground in surrender. when I got up again, I simply left the whole backpack behind. The journey is so much lighter and easier now, lol…
T: I also appreciate this thread . One of my faves of all time. Maybe because I am in such an elevated space and can feel you are all also.
I keep reading Sandra’s article. Get something more each time I read. This time I am getting how experiencing the abundance of the Elementals in my Body and Gaia’s Body creates the manifesting of abundance in outer world. Expect the Magic to happen.
Quote from DE:
“That being said, I welcome memories to go, shift or stay, however it is required on my soul path. I Am not my memories, I Am not my personality, but I Am master of my reality.”
Trauma therapy sees the emotional memories, called implicit memory, as stored in the body what can be for lifetimes. And when a person, (and I have done this for myself and hundreds of clients), is able to feel the emotional and physical sensations of the memories, express them and share them in safe environment with another who cares deeply for their healing, the body lets go and they gladly leave.
This letting go can be most challenging for some. For those with low vibration. With higher vibe people it happens so fast and easier. Lower vibe ones tend to want to hold onto the pain. “What will I be without this pain. It is all I know?” They can’t really feel and access the pain, so they can’t let it go. They know it is there but can’t really access. Takes a certain level of vibration to be able to go there.
And this is not going into the past, this is all happening in the Here and Now. The pain is current in the body. So, no blaming of parents or self or anyone, even trauma perpetrators. No blame. Feel the pain, don’t blame. Anger and sadness and even rage can be not blaming.
And, as Planetary energy rises there is less and less holding on.
In my Planetary meditations, I create a Light Circle and bring in Cabal leaders, politicians, MultiD Self, other Light Beings and raise the vibration of all in the Circle. Have all connect with their HS, (higher self) and with Gaia in her core, and this helps the lower vibe beings let go of their pain, fear, and anything else holding them back from letting go and trusting.
This is my contribution to the Planetary Healing of all Beings including Gaia.
A: Self-love and self-trust are at the center of this healing. Love is the key. It’s the only thing which will dissolve all the lies holding the pain and loathing in place.
Gratitude for all who do this important work and hold the space for those who need to feel safety in releasing what isn’t ours to begin with really. We aren’t our traumas.
That being said, the body does hold these memories physically, the emotions that are suppressed and unexpressed provide the endless life force to make them stick.
T: And self love is not possible without higher vibration. These two concepts go hand and hand. They depend on each other. Someone with lower vibe just can’t love themself. And with higher vibe, self love is very easy and so so enjoyable.
A: And yet, as someone who went through this alone and without therapy or anyone to assist me (at least on the physical plane), I can say that with some tools, one can climb out of the depths and begin to feel the energies lighten up. The energies of ‘higher’ type are always present and always have been. It takes devotion and it takes willingness to feel what it is that is clogging the works and release the charge on it. It takes time for the feelings to catch up to the process.
Those who do it this way are confused by the fact that there will be an initial release in the feelings, but it doesn’t last. The expectation of instant gratification doesn’t hold true here in my experience. It takes time to rebuild the trust between self and self that is broken. This is present 100% of the time in all instances that I’ve been privy to. Perhaps it isn’t always, but if it isn’t, I’ve yet to see this for myself.
There is a ‘passageway’ in the psyche that is pinched off when there’s a broken trust inside. And All broken trust can be traced back to the primary trust betrayal between self and self. The reflections of life giving us more of this is built upon the primary betrayal. Look hard enough and it’s always there.
I mention this again to point out that this is the way that we’re unable to receive. The higher vibe, the connection to Source, the ability to receive love from others and self, all of this is cut off without this primary broken trust being dealt with. This is my observation from my own journey and from endless conversations with others over about 3 decades.
Du: And so we find ourselves facing the only choice possible – unconditional surrender.
A: Yes, surrender, for sure. So here’s the catch-22 about trust going on and where, I feel, most everyone is going to get stuck if they’re going to get stuck.
We project outward the trust issues, claiming not to be able to trust life itself, when the real issue is related to the fact that, at some point, we had access to our truth (wisdom, beauty) and we put this aside in favor of (usually) trying to fit in and be loved. This is the betrayal of the primary kind.
It’s amazing how painful this is, how early it wounds us, and how hidden it is to regular awareness. Nevertheless, it’s what I’ve found at the root for myself and what I’ve observed in others too many times to deny it’s so.
Du: ‘Regular awareness’ didn’t realize his days were numbered as a result.
Jl: I want to join in with this wonderful conversation going on here. In case you guys haven’t noticed, for the past days I haven’t joined in much at this forum. I want to share the reason here in this thread.
It was a time for really being silent within me, and focus without distraction on to my inner world. For there are ‘parts’ within me, yet, which hold on to the familiar and comfortable; and there are ‘parts’ within me which long to break free of it all, like nothing in words can truly express for me! So, there is constant need to balance my energies within me to keep my sanity within a world which is shifting from 3D, to 4d, to 5d, and beyond.
And moving deeper into my own meditation and prayer help anchor this balance within me, as nothing else does!
To guide the parts which hold on to the past (fears, worries, anxieties…), that ‘I am a Spiritual Being, so let go, release, and surrender to The Now’.
To guide the parts which hold the desire to ‘let it all go!’… that ‘I am also a human being, so slow down, anchor deep and rest and trust The Flow of Now.’
It is this dance and song, which I share here with you guys.
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